Reacting to Nick Shirley's SHOCKING Food Stamp Fraud Investigation | Nick Shirley reaction video
Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.In this reaction video, I watch Nick Shirley investigate alleged food-stamp fraud in Seattle. His investigation follows EBT cards reportedly being exchanged for cash, an undercover attempt to trace the operation, and a grocery-store transaction involving a can of Spam and sushi charged at $120.What begins as an investigation into SNAP and EBT fraud quickly escalates into confrontations at Lam’s Seafood, accusations involving multiple people, and a chaotic situation in the street.Watch along for my honest reactions as the investigation unfolds.The claims and allegations discussed in this video come from the original investigation and have not been independently verified by Wheel With It. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.Subscribe to Wheel With It for more reactions, interviews, and conversations about the stories people are talking about.#NickShirley #FoodStampFraud #EBTFraud #ReactionVideo #WheelWithItTIMESTAMPS00:00 Introduction 01:27 Nick Shirley’s investigation begins 02:34 How the alleged food-stamp scheme works 02:56 Finding discarded EBT cards 03:56 The undercover operation begins 04:56 Food stamps, cash, and the drug trade 05:45 Searching for people involved in the scheme 07:22 Negotiating a price for the EBT card 08:01 Following the woman to the store 08:54 Entering Lam’s Seafood 09:09 A can of Spam and sushi 09:32 The $120 grocery-store charge 10:55 Confronting the alleged fraud 13:49 Other alleged participants are identified 14:48 Confronting the grocery store 15:55 A street brawl breaks out 17:02 Escaping the dangerous situation 17:32 Final reaction 👉 Subscribe to this channel and hit the bell so you don’t miss future podcast episodes and other fun content!👉 Connect with Devon & Wheel With It📲 Follow us on social media: wheelwithit.com/followus📤 Contact us: wheelwithit.com/contact🎁 Support Wheel With It 💙If you enjoy the Wheel With It Podcast and would like to support me personally, contributions help with my disability-related needs, everyday living expenses, and travel expenses. Contributions are directed to my ABLEnow account.There are two ways to give, and either is perfectly acceptable. If you enjoy the Wheel With It Podcast and would like to support me personally, contributions help with my disability-related needs, everyday living expenses, and travel expenses. Contributions are directed to my ABLEnow account.There are two ways to give, and either is perfectly acceptable. These are the only two authorized ways to contribute. Find them and get more information at wheelwithitcom/giveThese are personal contributions to my ABLEnow account and are not tax-deductible charitable donations.
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[00:00:00] Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Like it's a third world country. What the hell? Oh my god, so these things aren't even activated? Oh my god, I hope these people are like... 120 to spam. How does that even happen? Like what? Stop, stop. Stop.
[00:00:30] This is arguably one of the most dangerous situations I've ever been in. Hello, hello. Welcome to another episode of Wheel With It. My name is Devon Wieters and today we are going to do another one of the videos that y'all love. We are going to do a Nick Shirley reaction video.
[00:00:57] This time he is investigating a Food Stamp fraud scam. As always, I'm going in blind. Let's see what this is.
[00:01:26] Pin wrong. You commit fraud. I'm the fraud fraud. But it was fun though. It was? Ha ha ha ha. Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. You're being targeted right now. Everyone's saying Nick Shirley's here. Nick Shirley's here. Food stamp fraud, a type of fraud that steals from the poor and hungry and has become one of the easiest fraud schemes in America. Not many people I've seen sell food stamps to get their hair done, nails done, their toes done, buy an outfit to go to the club drugs.
[00:01:54] More than 42 million Americans receive food stamps and over $100 billion from your taxes fund this program. With over 250,000 stores accepting food stamps, it's become one of the easiest programs to defraud. And it's actually pretty simple. Each month, the government funds people's food stamp cards with a certain amount of money and then people will trade the money on the card at a discounted price. Here's an example. How much do you get on food stamps? How do you get three of six? And how much would you sell me your food stamp card for if I often get cash?
[00:02:24] And he's defrauding it. I only get one six and some for one person. You'd sell for $120? How many people do you get to live with? Like 12? No. What? So that's kind of how the food stamp fraud here works. He'll give people cash for the food stamps. That guy said his food stamp card was worth $300. People are willing to sell it for just $120. So the food stamp card is essentially just like an ATM for a lot of homeless people here inside of Seattle.
[00:02:49] However, for me to actually catch somebody committing this fraud, I needed my very own EBT card, aka a food stamp card. So I headed into the woods into one of the encampments and found some cards. And while I was in the woods, one of the homeless individuals shared something very important about this fraud. So how does the EBT fraud work? A person will go and obtain an EBT card and then they will take their food stamps and go and sell them wherever they can. You know what I mean? They sell the food stamp for cash?
[00:03:15] For cash? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a foreign person usually and they'll take the money to buy food for cheaper. So a foreigner will come in and offer somebody cash for their EBT? Yes, they'll wait for them and then they'll approach the drug addict or somebody like that. It's to be always a foreigner, an outsider coming in and saying, hey, we'll give you $100 for your food stamp card. Yeah. Yes. Yep.
[00:03:34] I then went and met up with citizen journalist Jonathan Cho, Grant Den, Darren Stockup to go undercover to find these fraudsters and go to the locations that were allegedly committing this fraud. And just wait till the very end because this gets absolutely crazy. Oh my God, he has to run like it's a third world country. What the hell? He's just exposing fraud. Right now, I'm going undercover. We have Darren who's going undercover and we have Grant who's going undercover.
[00:04:00] And we're going to be going out acting as bait to almost commit food stamp fraud. We're not going to commit the fraud. We're going to get to the point of committing fraud and back out. Yesterday, you were out here doing some work and people started offering you money for food stamps. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I didn't understand what they were saying at first. So I had to stop them and she was like, food stamps, how much, how much, how much? You're out here all the time. How often do you find these cards on the streets? Oh, these are in almost every encampment. You know, unfortunately, some of these folks who use these cards,
[00:04:29] they're trying to sell them or trade them and they just forget about them. So they just throw them. So you have hundreds of dollars on the streets, if not thousands of dollars worth of food stamp cards. And you can find them in almost any encampments. This is typical. They're traded like Pokemon cards. Yeah. Oh my God. They're traded like TCG's Pokemon one piece cards. Yeah. They're worth money, man. This is an alternative investment, man. Just scour the streets of Seattle. How much does it cost to buy fentanyl here? 50 cents. So people can buy these for cash and then that drug addict will then actually have the money to buy his drugs.
[00:04:57] Yeah. And that's the problem, right? You can't buy drugs with food stamp cards. So these have to be sold for pennies on the dollar. They'll take whatever cash and they'll immediately go to their dealer. Who's on pretty much every single corner here. Now that we had the EBT cards and we had our disguises, we first sent out Darren, AKA the wildcat to start building some rapport with the people. And me and Grant went into the heavy parts and tried to find people committing the fraud. And within literal minutes, we had this all figured out.
[00:05:27] What's up big time? Good time. Good time to you. Thank you big time. Thank you. I got you baby. At the gate right here. Who's there? She denied us. So we headed back up to the main street. How we doing? My dude, what's up big dog? Hey yo. Hey, we trying to sell some food stamps though.
[00:05:59] You just standing at the corner? Poor guy though. You look so sad. But like, you look so sad, but... Oh my gosh, poor guy. You should. You need that little complex with like a fast Chinese food and shit. Okay. Some real express. We go inside the store. Okay, cause we trying to sell our stamps and get some fatty and clear. And clear though. Okay?
[00:06:28] We'll help you get that too. I appreciate you. Grant. Devon, man. Devon, we've been meeting you baby. So we're going to Falcon Jackson. We're going to go to Jackson. We're going to take a lift right here. We're going to take a right. In Jackson it's that complex where all the Chinese food and stuff is at. And you're staying right there? Yeah. It's called Well Express. And they got like a whole bunch of food inside. Like canned food and shit. Like a lot of food stamps. And it's such a label. I got food stamps for sale, you know? How much are you like? Or is she like, well not today.
[00:06:58] But shit lets you know off the bat. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Alright, thank you very much. God bless. As we were walking over to the store, we noticed these individuals reading off and calling the phone over on the back of one of the EFT cards. Oh my God, so these things aren't even activated? We're trying to get rid of food stamps. Oh my God, I thought they were at least activated and they had no... How much did you do? You don't want to do $75 on a dollar? $75 for a dollar?
[00:07:28] $75? Oh, how much is on the card? How much is on this last one? $120. $120? $120? $120? Now how much do you have in your card? $120? $60. I give you $60. Okay, so that's... Okay, I can't do math, but that's like... $60. $60? $60. Okay, okay, okay.
[00:07:58] Next thing we know, this lady is taking us to the back of her minivan to try to get to drive us to the location where she's going to commit the fraud. Oh my God, I hope these people are like... Where we go? Not like kidnappers or something. Where you going to? I'd be like so scared. To the who? To get in the van. M.C. 4. Okay. Okay. We've been kidnapped before.
[00:08:29] Ha ha! They kidnapped me one time! A couple of women tried to pimp me out. Ha ha ha ha! I was terrible and great at the same time. But it was fun though. It was fun! Ha ha ha! Ha ha! Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We then followed this lady into Lamb's Seafood.
[00:09:00] She then went and grabbed one can of Span. Oh my God, this is like what I heard about online. Oh my God. Ha ha ha! Oh my God. Ha ha ha! And she grabbed one more thing of sushi. Oh yeah, Spam. I like Spam. Oh wow. You made that 120? Yeah. Oh okay.
[00:09:31] And magically, just like that one can of Spam and one thing of sushi was $120. Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. Because they know that like the government is setting the price so they could charge whatever they want because they're technically doing it with government money and not their own. Yeah, 120 for Spam. And that was like people's own money that they would have a riot, obviously. And obviously because I didn't have the pin to the card, it kept bouncing.
[00:09:59] Yet they continued to try and charge me $120 for a can of Spam and a thing of sushi. Which one? Lunch and meet. 120. 120 for Spam. Oh my gosh. Like. Yeah. How does it not even know if the pin's right? Oh my gosh. Like.
[00:10:21] When I shop at Aldi's, like if you don't, if you try to bypass the pin, it won't let you. And if you enter the long pin, it'll be like incorrect. How does that even happen? Like what? No pin? No pin. Oh no. Alright, here we go. I'm gonna put the camera on. No. I don't know. Pin wrong.
[00:10:56] Pin wrong. Pin wrong. Pin wrong. You commit fraud. Huh? You're committing fraud. What? You're committing fraud. Food stamp fraud. It's against the law. Oh. It's against the law to sell those food stamps like that. Yes. Because Spam isn't 120. All money? Do you work just for these people? No. No? You work independently? No. No? I have to buy and go home and eat. Okay. So you... You're committing fraud. I know, yeah. You know you're committing fraud? Yes. This is illegal. I know.
[00:11:25] You can't do that. Okay, but because I go home... Who are you? You work for cartel? No. Do you work for them? No. Who do you work for? Because Lambs is getting the money. Do they pay you back? No. So if you buy the Spam for 120 bucks. Yes. Yeah? And then where does the rest of the money go? Who gets the money? You or them? No. I go home, I eat. I buy and put up food, go home to eat. You eat all the Spam? Come on, quit playing with us. We're criminals. I used to be a criminal. I'm a convict. I used to do this shit.
[00:11:54] I'm just saying because you just... You sold us... A hundred and twenty dollars Spam. Yeah. That's fraud. I know. And it's pretty rampant around here. We just want to know who's benefiting. Oh my God, he's serious. Yeah. I'm like, that's so funny. He's like, can I take a picture with you? Oh, thank you. It was so funny. Did that Spam cost $120? Was it a hundred and twenty dollar Spam? Yes. And I go home and eat. I don't... You're committing fraud.
[00:12:25] I know. You all are committing fraud. Not just you, but this whole entire block is committing fraud. For them to charge you $120 for a Spam, they know what's going on. I know. You know? They know what's going on. I know, but I never do something wrong. Okay. No, you did something wrong. You commit fraud. Today, I... Today you did something wrong. I upset and wrong. Yeah. I upset today. We advise that you find a job where you don't have to commit fraud, because now you might be going to jail. Oh, okay. Yeah, I...
[00:12:54] You just committed a crime. Who do you work for, ma'am? No, I didn't work for nobody. Because she's committing fraud. This... She has no right to work in the USA under these conditions. Oh, don't talk to him. What the hell? He's gonna try and send you to Shanghai for this trade. Take us to your bus. No, nobody. I can take you to the person I can... I know all about all this stuff.
[00:13:20] I'm gonna f*** a dog if you don't stop questioning her under duress. How are you new? How is that? I'm gonna deport her. I'm kidding. If you don't stop harassing her. I never mind. That is crazy. How would you screwing a dog or bite it? It's more and more obvious she was not working alone. Affect her like... Okay, yeah. This was actually a whole entire mafia style ring. Stealing all of the money from food stamps here inside this area.
[00:13:49] And she even began snitching on other people. She'd buy two. So she does EBT fraud too? Yes. And where are you from? Vietnam. Vietnam. And why did you come here to the United States? I can... I don't know. And are you working for a mafia or for a cartel? No. No. How did you learn about the food stamp fraud? I don't know. Who taught you how to commit this fraud? Sorry, I did not very well. I cannot, you know, blame and tell you that...
[00:14:18] You're committing fraud. It's all on camera. This is a federal crime. You're stealing from federal tax dollars. Do you understand that here inside the United States, we all pay taxes. Anywhere from 20... Some places 50% of our tax... Of our money goes back into the hands of the government. And so you use that to commit fraud on people just like this who are homeless and that are disabled and that are suffering here in the streets. You use them to commit fraud, which is wrong. Don't do it again and you're probably going to jail.
[00:14:45] She continued to snitch on more fraudsters and we went back inside the supermarket to confront the other fraudsters that enabled her to commit the food stamp fraud. You guys commit fraud here? Yeah. Commit fraud? Yep. They commit fraud. Excuse me. How come you sold this spam and sushi for $120? Okay, that's a meme. When we came in to buy the spam, no it was $120. Like that's a meme though. But look on that lady's face.
[00:15:13] Like that's a meme and she's acting like she doesn't even know that she just sold the spam like five minutes ago around $20. Manager, how are you? Are you the manager of the shop here? What the hell? No, I'm not. I'm not. They stay over there. How come you guys let people commit food stamp fraud here? How come you guys let them commit food stamp fraud here? No, no. How come you guys accept food stamp fraud here? Yeah, I'm not.
[00:15:41] How come sushi cost $120 here? Oh my god. That's like... Oh my god. People are so violent. That's like out of a movie, but it's a real. Like I have a comedy activity. What? Therefore.
[00:16:09] His gun was in a scramble with a bunch of homeless individuals. A homeless person then stole the gun, and nobody could find the gun. And Jonathan security then tried to find the gun. However, because nobody actually wanted to give over the gun, Jonathan security then had to go out and defend himself while somebody had a gun. that then caused all the individuals who are on fentanyl to then create a mop and go after jonathan i security meanwhile i have no idea anything is going on as i'm down in the market
[00:16:38] confronting the philosophers why do not stop till i can tell you and now we got a crazy drug addict running with this too i'm on 30 i can't my hat guys guys show i got him we're good we got him this is arguably one of the most dangerous situations i've ever been in nick if i didn't see you on the street
[00:17:07] here running right now i don't know what would have happened i don't know where you would have gone you're being targeted right now everyone's like nick shirley's here nick shirley's here we've been looking for you your phone's been off i can't believe by god's grace we just found you on the streets right now and we're just heading back to the main event we have to clear out of the area right now no more compromise this story is over so that was so crazy that was insane they didn't even
[00:17:36] make sure the pin number was right how do you even bypass that because when i shop at Aldi that's right across the street from my apartment if you put the pin first of all you can't bypass the pin number like you can with other cards you have to put the pin in and then if you put an incorrect pin
[00:17:57] in it will kick it back and say it's incorrect so that's crazy and them charging 120 dollars for the spam because they know that basically not basically that the government is paying for it it's insane that's insane this fraud needs to stop i'm so glad that the fraud task force with jd and steven and
[00:18:23] all of them were on it because wow if this if that goes on in seattle i can't even imagine what goes on everywhere else so that was crazy if you want to know what we're doing to reform welfare please go to
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